W01.E01- El Dorado

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If this is your first time, immerse yourself in the discussion below. Submit new ideas for characters, plot lines, backstories, lore, any art that the story has inspired you to create, music that you think is cool and matches the mood of the story, and you get the point.

Vote up ideas you think deserve to be part of the lore, and vote down those you’d rather not see as part of it. Most importantly, immerse yourself, have fun, and be nice.

On January 28th 2018 at 11:00am EST, we’ll be taking the most up-voted suggestions and forging them into our shared world during the next recording session. 

In case you missed it, you can find W01.E01- El Dorado here:

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  • Joel Zahlan

    I was thinking regarding not understanding how old equipment work there could be several reasons. The most logical to me would be we got to an age with significant improvement in automation and artificial intelligence, were people stoped thinking for themselves. Everything was at their finger tips so they did not have to work or learn to get anything done. Most activities were automated and systems were smart enough to replicate the human response and able to self repair. The AI database along with all the automation feeds and the internet (knowledge database) was stored within the satellite network. Once they had the failure of the satellites they lost AI, they lost smart automation and they lost their knowledge. Because of their reliance on this, they could not operate most of the machines they had and did not have the knowledge to build or repair anything. So they regressed to hunters and gatherers. Further I would think that the eldorado mall was actually a library with books that discuss their history. Books that teach them how to rebuild and how their ancestors lived and created. This is the real gold mine because it gives them the knowledge to continue living and become self reliant. They also discover that the failure of the satellites was predicted and that out of greed corporations pushed to create these systems that made billions and destroyed millions of lives and jobs. They also discover the history of humans and how there used to be older people wondering the earth (which they didn’t know existed) and this gives them motivation to reverse the genetic creation.

    • Elias Rabieh Khalil

      I like your idea of people becoming very reliant on the AI stored in the satellites, so when things started falling out of the sky, coupled with the developmental issues caused by genetic manipulation, it’s a much more solid justification about why they regressed to rapidly. This idea coupled with Deema’s idea of genetically untouched descendants of those that did not partake in the designer-genes movement will make for an interesting backdrop for our tribe to be painted against.

    • Elias Rabieh Khalil

      Wow, you just barely missed out on being one of the most top voted recommendations to be integrated in W01.E02. Look out for the new episode releasing on February 4th, 2018 and maybe update your idea a little, and try to get it to the top voted spots for Episode 3.
      These are the top voted recommendations from this episode: https://storysmithspodcast.com/2018/01/29/taleweaver-recommendations-w01-e01/

    • hgnostop

      maybe they found the whole “for dummies” book series :))

  • Deema Nuseir

    I was thinking maybe 300 years down the line, in a time where several generations of “teenage” adults live and procreate, so there’s no one with any memory of the past or how the world once functioned. Except that there are small groups or what we could call “rebels” of the past, who refused genetic modification and procreated naturally, illegally. The problem is that they can’t couple with the genetically modified because they have the weaker gene, and they can’t reveal themselves out of fear of being outnumbered and massacred by the “teenage” adults. So in order to save humanity, they search for “normal” humans, like them, and try to copulate to reestablish a somewhat mature civilization and ensure genetic diversity (prevent genetic defects from inbreeding too much). Maybe towards the end of the story, Gil and his team could find one of these groups of people and learn about how the world once was…. And their big plans of making it great again… the end…

    • hgnostop

      Great idea but how these “normal” people didn’t dominate the earth, since they have this genetic advantage?

      • Deema Nuseir

        Normal humans are a lot fewer than genetically modified ones and on top of that they have the weaker gene not stronger. Maybe it took them time to realize this fact? so they lost a few mature generations along the way?
        Also, they are more mature, but these aren’t the scientists of the world, these are the average Joe’s that just didn’t want genetically modified kids. So they needed to discipline themselves maybe to regain the knowledge of their predecessors, and remember, people of our day don’t really stick together. Intelligence has a way of giving people the need to do it “their way”, so maybe they’re divided in their plan to bring maturity back.

      • Eric

        I like the idea of Deema because here there is hope for humanity.
        Do we want to keep hope to make humanity great again? How can we do it in the original story?

    • Elias Rabieh Khalil

      Congratulations. This post was one of the most up-voted and was integrated into the recording of the second episode of World 1: https://storysmithspodcast.com/2018/01/29/taleweaver-recommendations-w01-e01/

      Look for the episode on February 4th, 2018 to see what we did with your concept

  • Eric

    By the way, what’s the size of the tribe? The size of a an American football team? 😁 Are we talking of 50 ppl or 500 or more?

    • Ahmed AK

      It depends on the tribe, I would see them being smaller than 50 and maybe more. It highly depends on the reason these people choose to stay together.

  • hgnostop

    since there is no education around, what makes the moral code of the characters? is it the people that can read?

    • Deema Nuseir

      Why wouldn’t there be education? teenagers can teach, especially the more mature ones 😉

    • Ahmed AK

      Deema is right, also morality isn’t just taught in school, however you both touched on a very important point. Academics and education teaches us how the world works and how to enteract with it and in essence what is important. What would be this current age’s goals, achievments and objectives? A question for another time perhaps?

  • hgnostop

    I’m very interested in the political situation: how a society ends up with communism? why not anarchy? or despotism? what started the regression? was it the lack of a working class? food scarcity? has the population decreased? is food the most important resource now?

    • Elias Rabieh Khalil

      Very good questions. We’ll try to address them in the next episodes. Any recommendations?

  • hgnostop

    Gil doesn’t need to be good or wise: i would like to see her making silly or “immoral” decisions; i can relate better with the character in this way :)) but she must keep improving herself…

  • hgnostop

    unfreezing a man in a cryogenic machine is a huge shock; a regular man is enough! Leave the CEO for season 3 🙂

    • Eric

      Meeting extraordinary characters along the way is a great way to bring dynamics in the story. You can make die this cryo guy after 1week. Like in AI … 😉

      • hgnostop

        Yes! Please make people die…

  • hgnostop

    I think kids will never leave their toys: maybe toys are too important in this society; every kid has her own and inherits some from her parents; maybe at some point, after spending so much time with them, toys become artifacts or people believe they have supernatural powers

  • Rabieh aschkar

    Roads and cities were covered by volcanos or landslides or errosions.maybe .

  • Rabieh aschkar

    Maybe they knew about El Dorado from a printed panflit that was left behind from the olden days . ???

    • Elias Rabieh Khalil

      That was the initial idea- they come across a pamphlet which is an ad for the mall. But eventually that ad ended up being morphed into the hologram, as opposed to the pamphlet. Do you prefer the pamphlet to the hologram? If so, any reason in particular? Thanks.

      • Rabieh aschkar

        I thought it would difficult to put on a hologram that could be advanced to their level of intellect.

      • Eric

        I like the hologram idea. Energy can come from solar panel and wind meals.

  • hgnostop

    OK guys i really loved Mo’s idea about a “genes oriented – always children society”. Questions: how long ago does this society occurred?

    If it’s too long, do we have children leaving e.g. 60 years? if yes then we have an hierarchy depending on the “age”. Older children has experience and more wisdom. If this is the first generation leaving without parents then we need to determine how long ago the last old person lived in order to decide what is still functioning in this world. Since Elias said that they worshiping items i tend to believe the second.

    Maybe they die 12-16 years old? They probably have babies, they carry the babies with them.

    What happened and the old people just vanished? if they didn’t, why didn’t they come up with the plan to save their children’s future? it must have been a slow process.

    PS. I have only listened to half of the podcast, so i apologies if some of the questions are being answered later on. I just felt overwhelmed with questions coming to my mind. This is an amazing story, an amazing world, an amazing podcast, crafted by some amazing people. Thanks for this!

    • Ahmed AK

      Actually @hgnostop, it’s not that the adults died out or don’t exist, they are adults and grow up to be older but their mental capacity does not mature like we do, hence these tribes grow older but never really mentally and emotionally mature, and “grow up”.

      • Eugenio Curia

        Think of the characters in “The Island”, fully matured adults, with full mental faculties, but with the cognitive innocence of a 12 year-old.

      • Eric

        If there are tribes “fighting” each others, can they stay innocents?

      • Eugenio Curia

        Well it’s not exactly fighting, as it is the “Jocks” whom are doing the invading, and they definitely lose their innocence. GIl’s tribe we have yet to see.

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  • Elias Rabieh Khalil

    I think you could take inspiration from the way this guy looks https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d95969dc47a5165e20121e9474c7dfd6e1f2853ec79f54fded55071bf65620ab.jpg

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      Yeah he’s got a great beard

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